7wt nymphing line

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7wt nymphing line

Post by upstream » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:23 am

I'm looking to get a new nymphing line for my 7wt rod. I'm wanting something with a long head for mending at distance and good for roll/spey casts. To be used for heavy nymphing in the Tongariro and the like.

I've narrowed it down to 2 possibilities:
* Rio Intouch Salmon/Steelhead line http://www.rioproducts.com/products/flo ... -steelhead
* Airflo Super Dri Kelly Galloup Nymph Taper http://www.manictackleproject.com/kelly ... mph-taper/

But I have no experience of either line. Any thoughts, ideas or suggestions?

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Kev



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Re: 7wt nymphing line

Post by Whio » Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:19 pm

I'm no expert at all and have no experience with the lines you name. However, I find my 7wt Rio Gold works fine on my 7wt 9'6'' rod in the Tongas.


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Re: 7wt nymphing line

Post by Andy W » Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:28 am

I wish I was half an expert...

Same - I have a Rio Gold on my 7 wt, and it mends just fine on the larger SI braided rivers when using 2 nymph combos including double tungsten bombs and the like.



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Re: 7wt nymphing line

Post by upstream » Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:16 am

Yes I have a 5wt Rio Gold and it is a great line.
The Gold has a pretty long head at 47ft so should be reasonably good at the long range stuff.
But I was thinking of getting more of a specialist line to give me a hand with single handed spey casts. I'm teaching myself spey casting right now and hope to get the Tongariro roll nailed.



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Re: 7wt nymphing line

Post by Whio » Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:39 pm

Sounds like you need to talk with someone like Chromechaser then. He's a spey guru and all time good guy; although he'd never admit it :)


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Re: 7wt nymphing line

Post by upstream » Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:44 pm

Yeah maybe. But I'm talking single hand spey and rolls. Not double handed stuff.
I've had a recommendation for an Airflo Hero. Might be work a look.



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Re: 7wt nymphing line

Post by SteveO » Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:55 am

If its the Tongariro roll cast your after the advice given to me was to go two line weights heavier with a big head (60 feet) so my Scott S4 got a airflow ego put on it.

The other thing to throw into the mix is micro skagit, tiny little heads that shoot like anything perfect for single spey.

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Re: 7wt nymphing line

Post by Isaak M » Sat Jun 25, 2016 1:09 pm

Have a look at the Rio indicator 2, it is a very good line for roll casting. Heavy in all the right places and a long taper. I have it in the 6 weight, the only downside to it is that it is not the most stable taper for overhead casting.

The best line I have used for roll casting on a single handed rod thus far is the old airflo ego taper, I believe that the Hero is a tweak to this taper so it is certainly worth a shot.



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Re: 7wt nymphing line

Post by Andy W » Mon Jun 27, 2016 8:06 am

upstream wrote:Yeah maybe. But I'm talking single hand spey and rolls. Not double handed stuff.
I've had a recommendation for an Airflo Hero. Might be work a look.
Should be fine, Herb is quoted in his current course advert "long belly WF line..." and the Super Dri Hero is quoted as "long front taper, long belly and long rear fly line".



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Re: 7wt nymphing line

Post by flyfish » Mon Jun 27, 2016 9:22 am

I've been roll casting since I was 15, it's probably my 80% used cast on the Tongariro and can reach the far bank with it on most pools with my 6 weight(s), but in all honesty the technique (timing!) is just as important as the line, if not moreso. To give you an idea, Dan Thomas who I fish with, can roll a near full line with long leader and heavy nymphs on his 9' 5 weight OLD Sage VPS (his dedicated Tongariro rod!), now this is a soft rod by today's standards! It's all technique.

In saying that I have never had an issue roll casting any line, the Rio Gold's we're quite good, old 444SL's, even SA bass tapers etc, agree a longer belly helps, and also for mending which is even more important than the cast, it's hard to mend and shoot line that has no oooomph like running line!!

Remember a fish won't touch a nymph if it's being "twitched" during a drift from mending on the Tongariro, you see a lot of guys throwing in huge mends where the indicator leaves the water again, you can't move it during the drift unless absolutely necessary for lining up a specific line. You will simply miss fish moving that indicator.

I'm currently using the Airflo HERO and find it excellent for roll casting - really, really good, it's an aggressive taper, there is no subtlety in it however. It's a very durable line, perfect for the pumice dust up there. I can't see a need for Spey on the Tongariro, it's not at all a big river but looks like a fun method none the less.

I'm no casting instructor, in fact I hate teaching people to cast but have had good success teaching people to roll cast "Tongariro Style" so I'm more than happy to give you some tips Upstream if we manage to arrange a suitable few hours this winter. Cheers



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